T.D.
Jakes' fiery sermons, global reach have world watching
BY TIM MADIGAN
Knight Ridder
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More
and more, Bishop T.D. Jakes' influence begins to resemble that of another
contemporary African-American icon - Oprah Winfrey. His spiritual empire has
recently grown to include Mama Made the Difference, his latest inspirational
tome, which hit The New York Times bestseller list a few weeks ago. There is
his national television ministry, too; his counsel with American presidents and
star athletes; his work with hurricane victims; expanding missions in Africa;
and revival-like conferences around the globe that draw hundreds of thousands.
But
for the 48-year-old evangelist, none of that would exist were it not for what
happens on Sunday mornings. On one such Sabbath in early March, the west
If
that's all he was, just theatrics and style, Jakes might still be preaching to
small crowds in his native
Witness that recent Sunday.
"The
challenge is when you have defined yourself through a dependency, or a
co-dependent relationship or issue or area of bondage or a simple thing like
poverty," Jakes says that Sunday in March, speaking to a congregation that
was 90 percent black, dabbing away the perspiration with a red cloth. "You
would be surprised at the people who would not give themselves permission to
prosper because they are accustomed to seeing themselves as poor. When you try
to rescue them, they come out physically but they don't come out mentally
because they are so used to being the victim . . . . because
they're hooked on their pain."
He
paused, his image captured on two Jumbotrons on both
sides of the altar.
"I
know I'm going to step on some toes today," Jakes says. "That's all
right. You should have worn some tough shoes today. . . . I'm not saying you're
not saved. But what do you do when you're saved enough to leave the Pharaoh,
but the Pharaoh's influence hasn't left you? I swear to you, every level brings
a new devil.
"The
way to break your tie with the past is by your fascination with your future.
"Step
into your destiny!
"Step
into your future!"
The
crowd stood and took voice as Jakes' own decibels rose.
"How
am I preaching this morning?" he shouted.
Then
Jakes broke into a broad, gap-toothed grin.
No
person can speak with such insight about human suffering without suffering
himself, and Thomas Dexter Jakes has suffered greatly. He was the youngest of
three children born to Odith and Ernest Jakes, (she
was a teacher, he a janitor,) and will never forget the virulent racism of his
native
When
Jakes was 10, his father came down with a debilitating kidney disorder, and the
boy, the only one of his siblings left at home, became a primary caregiver.
When the dialysis machine malfunctioned, and Ernest Jakes' blood spilled onto
the floor, his youngest son helped his mother clean it up. T.D. Jakes was 16
when his father died.
He
later dropped out of college, lost a job at a chemical plant and struggled to
provide for his own family, which in the early years included his wife, Serita, and twin boys. (The couple now
have five children).
"We
lost everything," Jakes recently told Atlantic Monthly. "I was literally
cutting grass and digging ditches, trying to get diapers for my kids. So when I
go into a home of somebody who doesn't have lights on, I've been there. I know
what it is to get government milk."
The
personal trials leavened a natural gift for preaching that was evident from his
boyhood days, when he was known as Bible Boy. (He has only a few semesters of
college, and no formal theological training.) Back then, Jakes toted a Bible
almost everywhere he went, and retreated alone into the hills of rural
In
1980, in the small town of
"He
had been a pastor for awhile by then, so he had a lot of broken women coming to
him, sharing intimate things about what was happening to them," Jakes'
older sister, Jacqueline, remembered in a recent interview. "He began to
minister to them one on one. Then he taught that Sunday school class, and it was
so good that we said, `Do it again.' And this went on for six weeks and women
started coming from other churches."
Within
a few years, Jakes was ministering to women across the nation, work that also
inspired his self-published novel Woman, Thou Art Loosed! The book's heroine is
a young woman who was, according to the liner notes, "lost and sentenced
to a private hell of abuse, addiction, poverty and crime." A pastor named
Bishop T.D. Jakes helps the woman find her faith and a life beyond affliction.
The novel has now sold more than 2 million copies and was adapted into a 2004
feature film of the same name. (Jakes is prominent in the cast, playing
himself.)
Eventually,
It
is that lavish lifestyle, which also includes luxury cars and a private jet,
that's most seized upon by Jakes' critics. But years of digging by
investigative journalists have failed to unearth any impropriety, financial or
otherwise. His multimillion-dollar income derives from his books and outside
business interests, not from The Potter's House. And Jakes does not apologize.
"I
think it's critical that our community see success in their color," he told
The Washington Post five years ago, "success that is progressive and
legal."
Other
critics have compared Jakes to African-Americans like Tiger Woods and Michael
Jordan, mega-celebrities who have been reluctant to speak out against racial
injustice in any assertive way. Among them has been Princeton University
professor Cornel West, one of the nation's most strident black voices, who said
Jakes "was a spiritual genius, but he had not manifested the kind of
political courage I wanted to see."
But
that was before the East Coast professor flew south a few years ago to hash out
his differences with the
"When
I met him, I was looking at his soul and character," West says. "I
found humility, spiritual depth and willingness to serve. He is in process.
That's the bottom line and that's a beautiful thing, because televangelists are
not always in process. They think they've got it all figured out. They're
closed, final. That is not my dear brother T.D. Jakes. He has his own distinct
way. His own distinct calling."
That
calling recently entailed a four-day business conference in
Q:
You preach with great insight about human suffering. Could you talk about your
own?
That
ambidextrous ability to connect with people who have been victimized or
brutalized in any way was the catalyst that started my ministry. Yes, my father
was sick. That was a very painful thing for me because of my age. It was very
traumatic for a 16-year-old in the middle of adolescence to watch his father
die and all the things that went along with the process.
I
have images burned in my head of trying to get him to go to the hospital, with
him holding onto the wrought iron railings in front of our house, begging my
mother to let him die. To go through that at a very pivotal time in my life, to
lose my father and then right after that, almost lose my mother who had
multiple fibroid tumors .. . . that was very painful.
But again, I was a minority in
I
minister to (former Dallas Cowboy) Deion Sanders and
I know nothing about sports, nothing. But I know something about pain and I
connected with him on the basis of pain. I connected with him (by)
understanding what it was like for him to be thrust into a world where he had a
talent that would carry him, (but) where he didn't have the background to
support or undergird that wealth and that brightness
and that light. There was nothing in the community that he came
from that prepared him for that, so we began to talk about that
Q:
In one of your books, He-motion, you talk briefly of a deep depression you
suffered after you became successful. Do you know why? And how did you emerge
from it?
At
the time that I was sitting on the floor by myself, crying in the dark, I was
still in
I
went through a period where I was just freaking, just literally emotionally
distraught. Never in public. Never
around anybody else. But in the private times of my
life, just feeling empty and drained and incapable and incompetent to respond
to the challenges. Even today I think I still feel incapable and
incompetent. The problems (are) so severe that anybody who says "I can fix
that" hasn't seen it. Thirty thousand members of this
church, each with their own story, their own brand of problems and trials.
It's a lot every day.
Q:
Whether you're white or black or brown, if we're being honest with ourselves,
all of us feel broken in some way. Maybe that's why your message seems to
resonate across cultural barriers.
It
does resonate. I was in
Q:
You've been criticized for not being more militant about racial issues. Along
those lines, Cornel West says he believes you're "in process,"
evolving into someone who might become more outspoken. How do you respond to
that?
I
agree with him. I am a work in progress. But I also think our country is a work
in progress, and I really feel that the African-American community is in an
evolution, too, in terms of its leadership style and its approach to solutions.
......We certainly need African-Americans who march when marching is appropriate,
but I also think we need people who work within the system to bring about
change. I don't think one or the other is right or wrong, but we need a mixture
of both. The ultimate goal is effectiveness and not effervescence, and I think
it's vitally important that instead of screaming at the darkness, we light
candles.
I
tend to be solution-oriented. To bang my fist and say what's wrong with
Q:
A big part of the problem is white
I
don't think it is just a matter of bringing awareness to white
I
think there are a lot of things that need to be done in our system to destroy
the economic disparity that exists in our community. I'm concerned that 47
percent of African-Americans own homes as opposed to 74 percent of Caucasians.
One solution was to join Jesse Jackson on Wall Street as he challenged banking and
lending institutions to stop profiling their customers (by where they live.) I
joined him in that protest, and in that statement in
My
mother is from
There's
not going to be another Dr. King, and all those who seek to imitate him will
only become copies of a great original. The white community doesn't have just
one voice or one way of responding to issues. Why should the black community?
The very fact that we approach the problem from different perspectives is a
sign that we're healing. And the African-American community has to be more
suave in how we approach issues. We are going to be in the room with the
decision-makers. We have to be able to play with the big boys. We're not in the
back of the bus anymore. I don't need a seat on the bus. I don't even want a
bus. I'm glad I can eat at any restaurant, but I'm interested in owning
restaurants
Q:
That said, what would you say if you could address white
(After a long pause.) We live in a country where you can get a Ph.D. and not know anything
about us and we can't get a GED without knowing something about you. I would
say to white
I
once visited several predominantly Hispanic churches to better understand their
needs and culture. I went in and sat in the back with nothing particularly in
my mind except to learn and understand more about their community and preferred
worship styles. I think more white Americans should do the same. It would be
helpful, I think, if they removed themselves from
familiar environments where everyone looks like them, acts in similar ways and
professes similar preferences, to get in touch with other people's cultures
and, as a result, better understand their needs.
We've
got to work toward getting better at that process. But there are so many things
about us that are common. Rather than just focus on our differences - though we
need to understand them, our uniquenesses - we also
need to understand the commonness. We want the same thing for our children that
you want for your children. My wife comes home and tells me about the green
beans that were on sale, 10 cans for a dollar. I don't care about that any more
than you do. I just want to know what's for dinner. (Jakes laughs.) We're
having this same experience down here together. That's why Penguin/Putnam would
publish my books and not limit them to black bookstores. They put them right in
there with white
Q:
Not to sound cynical, but the reason Penguin/Putnam publishes you is because
you've sold 10 million copies.
(Jakes
laughs.) Absolutely. But the thing is,
Q:
Let's shift gears. Your sister says you've been preaching the same way since
you've been a teenager. How did you learn that?
God. It comes
from God. I'm not formally trained. I'm a bootstrap person. I'm honored that
people validate it. I'm amazed, to be honest with you. I have been amazed at
how
I
preach in a very black, African-American style, but it's not my style that does
it. I believe it's my heart. I believe it's my passion for people, my passion
for life, God's gifting on my life. It's not something that I studied and
researched. It's how I feel it.
Q:
But there has to be a process. Do you, say, start thinking about your sermons
on Wednesday and write them down on Saturday night, or what?
I
have a recipe for ministry that I give to ministers, and I'll share it with
you. My rule for sermon is, No. 1: Study yourself full. No. 2: Think yourself
clear. No. 3: Pray yourself hot. No. 4: Let yourself go. Most people think that
the most important thing is to study yourself full,
but it's not. The most important thing is to think yourself clear, because
until you have a clear understanding of what you are trying to accomplish, you
just get the sputtering of loose facts. Then, to pray
yourself hot. I can't get you excited about something (that) I'm not
excited about. Then, let yourself go. My whole body is an instrument. I preach
with my eyes and voice and my hands, everything. If I couldn't speak, I could
still talk.
Q:
In your sermons, you often state your thesis, then
take off on broad tangents. But you always come back to tie things up in the
end. How do you do that?
I
might go chasing a rabbit, but I'll never forget where I left my knapsack. And
I'm going to come right back to it and tie it all up together because to me,
there is an art to preaching, to communication in general, to writing.
Q: Wth all the success and adulation, how do you keep from
feeling like a deity yourself?
(Jakes
laughs.) That's not a problem. I know me. The gift is not me. The gift is from
God. I'm a guy. I'm a very ordinary guy. I like to pick out my own chicken
wings. If I didn't have to meet you today, I'd have on a jogging suit with a
baseball cap turned around backwards. I love privacy. I love normalcy. I like
playing with my dogs in the yard. I'm just a person. Nothing
special. I'm just a person having a human experience. But when it comes
to ministry, I have a gift for it. And when it comes to business, I have a gift
for it.
I
don't like to be purely defined as just a preacher, and have people put a
period where I believe God has put a comma. I teach people that every one of us
has more than one gift. People generally define you by the gift you were doing
when they met you. I meet you now and I say you're a journalist. But I have no
right to put a period. You may be a fisherman. You could be an astronaut. You
could be a fashion designer.
To
me, what makes life wonderful is exploring everything that God put inside of
you before you die. I know I'm going to die. I can deal with that.
I
may end up in a nursing home. That's OK, too. I just don't want to be sitting
on a bedpan wishing I had done something else with what was inside of me. I
just hate the idea of wasting my life, being compartmentalized into being what
you expect, so that you feel comfortable about me. I want to do everything
that's in me before I die, and my ministries are a reflection of that. My books
are a reflection of that. It's hard to get your arms around me, because there's
a lot of stuff in me.
But
what I preach is that there's a lot of stuff in you, too, and don't you die
until you get it out, because if you do, you're going to die with a tear in
your eye. I really believe that.
Emmitt Smith and
other former Cowboys worship with Jakes
On
my first visit to The Potter's House, while I was stuck outside the church in
the typical Sunday morning traffic jam, a huge white SUV pulled up next to me.
The driver rolled down his window and pointed toward my front tire, mouthing
the words, "You've got a flat." After muttering a mild expletive, I
realized the man in the SUV was Emmitt Smith.
A
few days later, I got Smith on the telephone, thanked him for pointing out my
predicament and learned that the National Football Leagues' all-time leading
rusher is in T.D. Jakes' congregation nearly every Sunday.
"In
my experience, in some churches you don't get what I call feeding, you don't
get a consistent message," Smith says. "When I went to The Potter's
House and heard Bishop preach every week, every Bible study, the message was so
strong and so powerful you could not sit in that house and not be
changed."
Jakes'
own celebrity also helps him understand the challenges of public life faced by
Smith, Deion Sanders and another former Dallas
Cowboy, Michael Irvin, who also belong to the church.
"He's
a normal person," Smith says. "He laughs. He jokes. He likes to check
out movies. We try to have lunch once in a while. Yeah, I love him. I mean, I
love the man because spiritually he's right on, and he's definitely in touch
socially, and he's even more impressive when you get to know him personally. To
me, it's just like a father talking to a son, and I appreciate that." ---